Andy Moore

Andy Moore, Age 22, Self-Employed Gardener; Big Branch, Kentucky, Perry County:

“I pretty much just work for myself. Seems like I can make a little better money than what a minimum wage job pays. Besides gardening, you see these people on TV, doing the ginsenging, and stuff like that? I do that, plus dig more than that. 

There’s hundreds of medicinal plants around here can be sold. It just all depends on what the market’s bringing, and what the buyers are wanting. I sell to a middleman basically, that deals with that stuff. I’ve sold the black cohosh, blue cohosh, wild hydrangea, May apple, bloodroot, yellow root, ginseng, elm bark, moss, stone root, wild yams. I mean, I could keep on naming them. 

I learned a lot of plants from my parents, but when I got into it, I took it a little bit further. I took it upon myself to learn other things, and I still learn something every day.

Growing up, I was never in the house. I never wanted to be inside. Period. I was interested in hunting and fishing, just anything, any excuse to be outside, or to be in the garden, or to just be doing something in nature. [I enjoyed] anything to do with putting my feet on the dirt.

Hillbilly, mountain man, redneck…I guess you consider me a hybrid. 

The stuff that we’re doing right here [in Appalachia] is real good. There’s all kinds of stuff that can be done, as far as money. Some people may choose not to do that. Some people don’t want to live this kind of lifestyle, but it is a good, alternative lifestyle. There’s so many ways that you can make money making a living off of what’s provided to you here.

There are options. You’re not going to be a millionaire doing it, but from what I’ve learned, you’re always going to have enough to survive, and that’s the kind of person I am. I don’t want a lot of extra stuff. As long as I have what I need, I’m happy with it.

It’s [Appalachia] just where I grew up, and what I’m accustomed to. Since I was a kid, I’ve devoted my life to learning this stuff. If I left here now, it’s throwing a life’s work away. As far as being in a town or a city, I just never was that kind of person. 

You got a lot of different bloodlines that makes the Appalachian people, and it’s a rich heritage. It’s hard to put into words about the way the people around here are. We’re a different breed, and we’re a very stereotyped people, too, for the wrong reasons.

People think that this part of the country is just a host of ignorant people, and that’s a bad thing to say, because no matter where you go in the world, there’s going to be people ignorant of something else in the world. You have to look upon the knowledge that’s here, or anywhere else you go. 

I’m not saying that we’re ignorant of the rest of the world. I’m just saying as a collective knowledge, we’re different about what we know, and how we live. Just because somebody hears an accent from around here, they think you’re illiterate, that you just grew up poor, and will never accomplish anything. And that’s a bad mindset to have.

(Regarding the region’s future) I look for there to be a lot less people here than what they are right now, and for the people that decides to stay, it’s going to be a different industry than what we’ve been used to. People that decide to stay, is going to have to find new ways to make a living. 

Like I said, there’s a lot of different ways we can do that. Be open to trying new things. If you’re going to be here anyway, you might as try something else, ‘cause what we been doing, it isn’t working anymore.

I’ve never had a time in my life that I wasn’t happy here. I was born here, and I have full intentions of dying here. And, I guess as long as I die here, I’ll die happy. 

I’ve always said that there’s one thing that every road on this planet has in common; there’s not a single one of ‘em can take me where I want to be. It can get me a little bit closer, but it can’t take me there. 

I have to be out in the woods, or be out in the middle of nowhere to be happy.“

Kelli Haywood

Kelli Haywood, Writer/Blogger; Littcarr, Kentucky, Knott County:

“I live close to Dead Mare Branch, where James Still lives. I grew up in Whitesburg and Isom, in Letcher County, Kentucky.

Growing up was great. It’s a lot different, than the way things are now. When we lived in the holler, I was just turned loose all day, and expected to be back by suppertime. I roamed the hills all day long, as often as the weather would let me, and even if my mom wanted to find me, she wouldn’t have been able to. 

My dad made sure I knew what poisonous snakes looked like, and what to do if I saw one, and what to do if I came upon any other animal. I knew basic first aid. They taught me what to do if I got bit by a snake, and turned me loose. (Laughs) That wouldn’t be acceptable now, I don’t think. I’m not really sure why, but I feel like it was a good time.

I have one full sibling, and I have a half-brother, and two stepbrothers, and a stepsister. We were The Brady Bunch. There were three girls and three boys, when we were all together. 

I’m a pretty introverted person, and so most of the time, I like to be alone. But on occasion, they would go with me [to the hills]. 

My Dad was a star athlete at Whitesburg High School, and my Mom was a cheerleader. They had dated from the time she was in the eighth grade, and they got married not too long after they both graduated from high school. I was their first child. 

They were divorced when I turned eight years old, so I had a stepmom and a stepdad. 

My Dad was a pretty big part in teaching me about my environmental surroundings. He’s an Environmental Engineer, and works with coalmines on reclamation, and making sure that things comply environmentally. He taught me all about the geography, the geology, the plant life, the flora and fauna, and got me out into the natural world, and got me comfortable with it. That has always been where I’m most comfortable. 

Even more than that, my grandparents played a huge part in me becoming who I am today. And I say that because they made sure I knew where I came from, what kind of people I came from, and how we got here in the mountains, and why we came. That story: all the superstitions, and all the, especially ghost stories, and things like that; Our family tragedies, and the funny things that happened; even down to what they ate for breakfast. I learned all of it. 

My grandfather was an electrician in the coalmine, and then he ended up teaching at the vocational school. My grandmother was a paralegal at the Letcher County Courthouse, worked with Polly and Craft. And then my other grandmother was a secretary in the Letcher County Board of Education.

I guess the one [story] that really strikes me the most, is how one section of my family ended up in Southeastern Kentucky. My great-great-grandmother, her name was Arizona Walker, Webb Walker, her family had been on the Trail of Tears and had been separated. 

Some of them went with the eastern band [Cherokee] as they escaped, and then the rest were out in Oklahoma. She had traveled back and forth, and her father had caused their home life to be pretty bad. Because of some disagreements and some issues with her father, at fifteen, she ran away from home, and walked. She had a bad leg, it was way shorter than the other. She walked alone, at the age of fifteen, from Georgia to Dayton, Tennessee, where she set up a life for herself. 

After she got married, her husband went to work in the mines in Hazard. And that’s how they ended up in Eastern Kentucky. She was a Cherokee. So that, that story of our family being torn apart in that vicious circle of events, I can still feel the impact of that in me today, and how I was brought up. So to me, that’s the one that captivates me the most. 

[My ancestry is] Cherokee, of course, and we still have cousins on both reservations. I am Scots-Irish. My great-grandfather, his name was Stacy, and he definitely looks still very Irish, what you would imagine the stereotypical Irishman to look like. My maiden name is Hansel, and that is Welsh and German. Nobody really knows where one of my great-great-grandfathers on my mother’s side came from. He has a very interesting appearance, but my great grandmother had told me he was a Blackfoot Indian, and those are from the north, you know, west area, but I don't know that for certain. 

(Other family stories) I love the ghost stories best of all. Other than the family history, were the ghost stories. Both of my grandmothers believed in ghosts, and had seen a number of them. 

My grandmother told me a story of one time she lived on Goose Creek, in Neon. She was sitting on the porch swing, swinging. She was just a little girl, and she looked up at the cemetery and, from one of the graves, the graves of her grandparents, rose up a ball of fire, and it was raining. She was sitting on a covered porch, but the fire didn’t go out, and the ball rolled down the hill. The fireball got bigger and bigger. It rolled across the road, and then when it hit the gate of their yard, it turned into her grandparents, and they came in the gate. 

Her grandfather opened the door for her grandmother. They walked up the side path, and up the steps to the porch, and then when they got up to the porch, they disappeared. 

And that was the story. It wasn’t anything other than the ball of fire. There wasn’t anything extravagant; she didn’t say they spoke to her, you know, didn’t describe the ghosts in grand detail. And so in my head, I’m like, what is there not to believe about that? Why would she tell that, if there wasn’t any other big, extravagant thing? That is not made up, you know. So, that is one I always believed really happened, and that she believed really happened.

I’ve been really surprised, when traveling outside of the region, at the difference in the culture. People don’t seem as willing to stop, and become involved in another person’s troubles. That’s something that I think still sticks here, though I don’t think our communities are as strong as they once were. If I’m broke down on the side of the road, I may be there thirty minutes, before somebody comes and helps. But when I was in Louisville, I stayed on the road over five hours, with no one asking to help me. That’s a huge difference. 

I think we’re a reserved people, in a way. We’re a people that really wants to protect our identity. We have a fierce sense of identity, and I think most of us feel like it’s being exploited, and being misrepresented. Because of that, we have kind of insulated ourselves, and we don’t share as much of our culture, the real culture, as we used to. 

As far as music and art forms go, I think it’s becoming a little washed out as far as it being passed down to the young people, and that worries me a bit. I see a lot of positive things happening, but the willingness to claim those huge parts of our culture and renew them seems to be waning. We seem to have more of a desire to meld to mass culture, mass American culture. 

We’re a clannish people, very protective of our family, and our hollers, and our land. Land is extremely meaningful to us. It belongs to everybody, but it also belongs to the family, and that’s something I don’t see everywhere. 

Here, you’ll have grandparents pass away, and there’s this old home place sitting there. None of the kids move into it, but they won’t sell it either, because it’s the old home place. It won’t get sold because somebody really worked for that. We value hard work, and we value making do, and we’re not afraid to get our hands dirty. 

For seven years, we lived in the Louisville area, going to school, and I taught school in Henry County for four years. Other than that, that’s the only time I’ve lived out of Eastern Kentucky. 

At first [living in the city] was extremely exciting, because as a teenager there were times when I was so bored. I felt so out of place, all I wanted to do was to get out and see something new. So, it was really exciting in that regard, because I got to do a lot of things, that I had always wanted to do; riding bicycles through the city, and seeing all the different types of people. I’d always wanted to see different cultural things, so that was extremely exciting. 

But, it was really hard to express myself there openly, because when I would open my mouth to speak, my identity as a Southeastern Kentuckian was given away by the way I sound. 

For some reason, in this country, it’s still perfectly acceptable to make fun of the Appalachian person, and to put us down in front of our face. I don’t think some people are even conscious of how hurtful it is. People would speak my words back to me, the way they thought it sounded. It would be really embarrassing, so I didn’t put myself out there to meet very many people. 

But, there was a great sense of community in Louisville, and I found a lot of like-minded people, that I have a harder time finding actually here. So, there were good and bad things, but when we had our children, we realized that it was time to go home. That’s where we knew how to raise a child.

The teaching of respect that I got as a child, is just a good way to be in this world. You don’t call your elders by their first name, unless they give you permission. You always smile, when opening the door for the person behind you. You always say ‘please’ and ‘thank you.’ 

Don’t assume things about people. Talk to them, get to know them, before you make any kind of judgment on their value to you. Everybody is God’s creature, [and] there’s value in all people. They’re here for a reason. All of those things, I just think that they’re just a really solid foundation for getting along anywhere you go in the world. 

Even now, anytime I go to a flatter landscape I feel vulnerable. I feel like I’m wide open. Anything could wipe me out at any moment. Where do I run to hide? You know how to take to the hills, but where do you hide in the city? 

Currently I am pursuing my writing. It’s something that I’ve always done. I grew up in a family that tells stories. I’ve always been read to, from even before my memory, so, as soon as I was able to construct a paragraph, I began writing on my own. I wrote my first, real, full-length story in the fifth grade, and have been writing ever since. 

That’s what I went to school for, but I took a lot of detours, mostly to support my husband in his efforts and his talents. Now, I’m taking my turn to pursue mine. I finished the Appalachian Writers’ Workshop, and I am blogging at confluencemama.com, about just day-to-day life, my thoughts [and] different topics that I think the people of Central Appalachia would be interested in, that directly affect us.

(About the name of the blog) Well, where we live is a confluence of three creeks,; Big Doubles, Little Doubles, and Buffalo Creek. They all run together. Where we drive up out of the creek to get on our little dirt road that goes up to the cabin, that’s where they all three meet. 

My life, I feel like, is a confluence of all kinds of interesting things, and they meet somewhere in the middle, and form me. I saw that as kind of a metaphor for my own self to use that name. 

We need to diversify our sources of income here. I don’t think there will be a big back turn to coal. I do think that the way it’s happened, is extremely unfortunate for our community. The war on coal makes my stomach hurt. Three generations back that I am aware of, and probably farther, I come from a family of coal miners. 

We were able to make a living, because of the coal mines. My Dad currently still works as a miner, and it’s just hard to have to see him go from job to job at his age, because he’ll lose one if the company closes or they’re downsizing. It’s not practical to go back to school, and he can’t retire. 

I see a lot of people in my age group, I’m thirty-six, are having to leave. That, as a parent, makes me nervous for my daughters. But, I’m also really hopeful because I believe that the people who really want to stick it out, and who really want to find solutions and build our communities again, will remain. Or they’ll come back when they’re able to. We’ve had many mass exoduses of people from here, and it seems like eventually they do, mostly, come home, in one way or another. 

A lot of people claim that we’ll be able to be like [a] mini-Gatlinburg, and that we’ll be able to make money from farming. But I don’t believe that either of those two things is going to be viable for most people in the area. We don’t have the infrastructure to support tourism. We don’t have major highways coming through most of these places. It takes a grand effort to get here. 

If we want to promote tourism, we have to build things that people are going to want to come see. It’s one thing to come see Bad Branch Falls, a small waterfall, but what else are they going to do? Where are they going to eat? Where are they going to sleep? What does that look like? How does that reflect on us as a culture? If they come here, they’re going to want to see our unique culture, not a homogenized version of what we really are. 

It’s just like the folks down at Cherokee. You’ve got your folks on the reservation, and you’ve got your folks down in the tourist area that are wearing the headdresses that Cherokees never wore, and selling tomahawks and all these different things. It’s a way to make money. It’s a way to draw attention to yourself. 

If you play the part of a hillbilly, you’re going to get gigs making fun of yourself. I don’t fault people for using their talents to make money. If they can get a dollar out of somebody, for playing that role, fine. What I don’t like, is when it’s somebody from outside of the region putting on that air. I don’t think it’s the best thing to do. 

I do think, instead of teaching our young people where we come from, and who they are, we’re avoiding it, and trying to erase a lot of the really great things about ourselves from our children. I do believe that we’ll have to get back to that. That is part of the solution. 

An Appalachian is a fiercely independent person, who also very much values the people who support them in that independence. They’re willing to give up everything to defend their beliefs, including getting physical. They are very respectful people. They’re a people who can make do with little to nothing, and live a decent life. They’re a very proud people. I believe highly intelligent in ways that a lot of people haven’t had to exist the way we have, are not. 

Highly intelligent, in very practical ways, and that’s what gives them the ability to make do with little to nothing. We’re very inventive. It makes us highly artistic, whether we believe we are or not. I think most of us are very artistic.

Am I a hillbilly? Well, I wrote a whole blog post about it, and I guess I would be classified as a hillbilly. I don’t use that word outside of the context, and I will rarely refer to myself as a hillbilly to an outsider. 

That word was coined as a derogatory term for Appalachians, just like other derogatory terms for other people. There’s been a movement to reclaim that and you can argue that that’s a good thing. You can also argue that that’s a bad thing. Can that word be reclaimed? When we still have people, like I said before, making a dollar off of that stereotype, and perpetuating those stereotypes that have never been true. 

So, I think it’s wrong to regularly refer to myself as a hillbilly, and I don’t adopt that term. I’m a mountain woman. I’ll call myself that. I’m an Appalachian person. Eastern Kentuckian. 

(What will the region look like in 10-20 years?) It’s hard for me to daydream about that. Honestly, I can’t tell you where I think it would be in twenty years, because right now I don’t see any clear answers. 

Some days, I see some great things happening, and I get really hopeful. But most of the time, I’m not very hopeful, and I hope that what I see here aren’t ghost towns. I hope that the essence of our people remain here, and that we rebuild a community that is genuinely our own, without outsiders coming in and trying to form it for us.

My hope is that my children, if they choose to remain here, will be able to make the life for themselves that they want, no matter what it is they want to do. If they choose to stay here, that they can raise their families here, and they can be happy here and don’t have to see a lot of the things that I’m experiencing day to day, which involves a lot of outside influence coming in, and misrepresenting us.”

Raymond Browning

Raymond Browning, Disabled; Barboursville, West Virginia:

“I’ve been disabled [since] 2009-2010. I do a little woodworking, mow a little grass, do a lot of weed-eatin’ this time of year. In the winter, I stay in my woodworking shop a lot. Mary Ann [wife] works and I don’t; so I cook, that’s about it. I’m a househusband maybe, I guess. I’ve got the grandkids a lot.

[I was born in] Logan, West Virginia. We left there when I was two years old. I don’t remember it. We moved to Wayne County down out back of Cabwaylingo Park, across this mountain called Sweetwater Mountain on a little creek called McComas Creek. My dad built a log house and I basically grew up there. 

We lived in [that] old log house he built with mud stuck in the cracks, [and] clay that we dug out of the bank. Him and mom had a bedroom, and there was three of us boys; we had a bedroom and two girls had a bedroom. [There was a] big ‘ole pot bellied stove in the living room for heat. [We burned coal and wood] Back then, everybody had a coal mine. We lived on top of a mountain and dad would go off the hill and help an old guy dig the coal out of a creek bank; enough for us, too.

I was twelve years old before I knew my middle name wasn't ‘stovewood,’ because mom would always say, ‘Raymond, stove wood.’ We cooked with wood, too.

One of the best games I remember, and the most fun we ever had, was we used to take an old bicycle rim without a tire on it and take a stick and put it underneath it and push it and run along behind it. I remember us kids would do that for days. 

We had a thing we called, ‘jumpboard.’ We’d take a big ‘ole board and lay it across a log, and one kid would get on one end and the other one would take off runnin’ and jump on the other end and you would start jumping each other in the air until somebody fell. We didn’t break many bones. 

I never knew neither one of my grandfathers, but I knew both my grandmothers. One we called Nanny, and the other one we call Granny. They were both little, bitty women and cooked all the time. Browning, my dad’s mom, she was always, ‘don’t let the kids touch nothing. Don’t do that.’ [She] had a real neat house and you couldn't do nothing. 

My mom was a Ketchersid, spelled just like it sounds. Her mom, we called her Nanny, and she was just the opposite. When the kids come it was just, ‘Go ahead do what you want. I’ll clean up when you leave’ type thing. 

My whole family is little bitty people. Both my grandmas was probably under five foot. My nanny, she died when I was about seventeen and my grandma Browning, she died when I was about ten. 

[Dad] and my mom broke up when I was ‘bout eight or nine. He had his right arm cut off in a sawmill when I was two years old. He worked in a sawmill and lost his job when he had his arm cut off and they didn’t have worker’s comp back then. That was in ‘58 [or] ‘59. He had his right arm cut off at his elbow. He had a hook that he wore on his arm, ran a chain saw and we hauled logs with horses. 

I joined the Army while I was still in high school ‘cause they wasn’t no work back in ‘74 [or] ‘75. I joined the Army and went to El Paso, Texas. I wanted to go to Australia, but they didn’t have no base over there. 

Growing up, I read a lot of Zane Grey books and I always loved westerns. I thought, ‘Boy, that’d be cool.’ I had my choice of stations, and when Australia wasn’t available I picked El Paso. I was a pole climber. I strung two-wire telephone line. That was my job, climbing poles. I enlisted for three, did my three, and was happy to get out. 

While I was in the Army I met a girl. We never was married, but I lived with her six or eight years, and she was a black girl. I had one kid before I got out of the Army, and when I got out, I couldn’t bring her back to West Virginia. Basically, this was in the ‘70’s. I could have, but it [would] had been a hassle. I got a job working security at a Billy the Kid clothing factory. The only thing I could find. 

Before I did that, I came back to West Virginia and looked for work; couldn’t find nothing. No work, so I ended up going back to El Paso. That’s when a guy I knew from the Army, one of my sergeants, got me a job as a security guard. I kept that job for like two months. All you had to was sit. 

My brother was a surveyor, and I worked with him sometimes in the summer, so I started looking through the paper and found a surveying job, and I just put a bunch of coal mines that I’d surveyed for that I knew the name of, as references. I didn’t figure they’d call them, and they didn’t. They hired me and I started surveying. I surveyed four or five years while I was down there. 

Then I had another kid, and then we broke up and I stayed there about another year [before] I moved back up here again looking for work. 

[The most tragic time in my life was] probably when my kids’ mother went out on me. That was probably the worst I ever felt in my life. It was pathetic. I was going to school at night and all day Saturday, plus holding an eight-hour job down through the day. She wasn’t working, and it was two or three days before Christmas. I got paid and come home and stayed up and had to go to school that night. Gave her some money, we had two kids at that time, and told her to go get some Christmas presents and this and that. I got dressed and went to school and didn’t get home till ‘bout eleven-thirty and she wasn’t home. 

I went to her sister’s house and picked the kids up and brought them home, and I figured, well she’s shopping. Next morning I got up and she had a big ‘ole hickey on her neck. That was probably the worst I ever felt in my life. I wanted to kill people. Makes you feel worthless you know? Here was somebody I just worshipped the ground they walked on, ‘purt near. That was probably ‘bout the lowest I ever was.

I went to school to study surveying. Because I was under the Vietnam GI bill, they paid everything. I’d go to school at night and work through the day. I was working for like $3.35, minimum wage. The Army paid me like four something a month to go to school, so I did that. 

I went to North Carolina and got another job as a surveyor and stayed there about a year or two. Got in trouble with the law down there, long story, and had to leave there. Come back to West Virginia again and couldn’t find work nowhere. I strung barbed wire for like nearly a year for twenty-five dollars a day. 

My sister worked for a cable company back then, and she knew a contractor that had the contract for installing and I got hired as a sub-contractor and worked the first week for nothing, to show the guy that I could do it. Then they hired me and I made piecework and I started making good money. A couple years later, met Mary Ann [wife]. Not a real interesting life if you think about it. 

[What’s the difference in living in El Paso and living in the mountains] The way I was raised I trust everybody until you screw me. The different places I’ve been, you don’t trust nobody whether they screwed you or not. Where I live seems to me like everybody trusts you and likes you when they meet you, then you screw them over and you’re dead to them, basically. Other places I’ve been, they don’t trust you [or] like you from the beginning. 

(What makes Appalachians special?) Knowing your neighbor and being able to just meet somebody when you’re out hunting, and be able to sit down and talk to them; both of you is carrying guns but you ain’t got to worry ‘bout him shootin’ you. He don’t got to worry ‘bout you shootin’ him. If you was in New York or something, and come up on the street with somebody, both of you had guns, you’d think twice, you’d back up instead of turning, you know what I mean? I think just trust and knowing your neighbor and just being good to people. 

(Appalachian food) I love [to cook]. It’s mostly wild game. It’s what I grew up eating; we grew up eatin’ squirrel, rabbit, groundhog, ate a lot of groundhog. Back then, there wasn’t no deer, we very seldom had deer. My dad raised pigs and cows and we ate them. To me it’s mostly meat. 

You got your ramps, but I ain’t a big ramp fan. Once you get past the smell you’re okay. I kill deer every year. Mary Ann won’t eat groundhog, but I kill a couple of deer every year. They eat the flowers, so I figure I can eat them. I squirrel hunt every year, and my grandkids, the two I watch all the time, I’ve got eight, but the two I’m closest to, they love squirrel. [My favorite thing to cook is] probably peppered steak, because that’s what I made Mary Ann first time I ever cooked dinner for her and invited her over. It’s easy and it always comes out good. 

The happiest [times] that I [have had] is when I’m with my grandson. He turned twelve, so he outgrew me. I’ve had him since he was born [and] took care of him. He said, ‘Papa’ before he could say anything. He had a little sister, [and] his mom, Mary Ann’s middle daughter, used to say, say “Mama mama’ and Lyric, my grandson would say, ‘no Cadence, say Papa.’ He’s twelve now, getting ready to be thirteen so we ain’t as close, but I just loved being around him.

I think I am [a pretty good fisherman]. I got another camp up on Greenbrier River; I’ve got a thirty-two foot camper up there. Me and my brother and a couple other people go up there and float the river. Catch smallmouth all day long. That’s about my favorite fish, and I don’t catfish [or] trout fish. I don’t do none of that stuff where you sit and wait for a bite. I cast and reel. We use waterdogs a lot. People call them salamanders. I grew up calling them waterdogs. That’ll just slay the bass. That’s a fun time. 

(The one that got away) I hooked one up there on the river in a big ‘ole deep hole. I got this rubber raft [with] seats across it with swivel on them that we made outta boards. I hooked probably the biggest fish I ever caught; had it hooked and was bringing it in, and my drag was just a poppin’ and goin’ on. I pulled it right up to the edge of the boat and it raised up and I saw it. About the time I saw it, it went straight down and my line broke and it sounded like a twenty-two rifle. That was probably the most excited I ever was. I’d hate to even try to guess [how much it weighed] cause I’d lie. [I called it] Basszilla.

(Perceptions by outsiders) That’s something that I hear people talk about, but to me I don’t care ‘cause I know what I am, what my neighbors are, I know what the people I know are. If I don’t know you I don’t [care] what you think. It just don’t matter to me. 

By definition, I am a [hillbilly]. Somebody that lives in the hills and can live off the land if they need to, and somebody who can take care of themself. You got to have hills and trees involved. That’s where the name comes from, I guess, but I really don’t know where the name hillbilly come from. Why’d they add billy on it? Why not hilljoe or hillbob? 

I’ve heard the redneck [story] you know with the red scarf. If people want to call me that, I don’t care a bit. I’m proud to be that. It’s just somebody who can take care of themself, basically. 

I have lived a bunch a places and I always come back. Like Dorothy said, there’s no place like home.”

Chadwick Maxwell Atkinson

Chadwick Maxwell Atkinson, Student; Beckley, West Virginia:

“I live in Beckley, West Virginia. I was born in Newport News, Virginia. My Dad was in the military. My family is originally from West Virginia. I was in second grade when my family moved back. 

[I like living] in West Virginia. I like the people, and the area. I enjoy playing in the mountains, the creeks. I like camping on the riverbank, fishing, catching crawdads, worms and all that. I hang out with my grandpa a lot. My grandpa has taught me a lot. He has taught me how to fish, the footprints of the animals to look for, how to know if the deer is a doe or buck and how to take apart a car. I know a bear footprint, a coon, a deer, lizard and snakes, stuff like that.

Me and my grandpa and uncles go to a little pond that nobody knows about, but us. We catch bait, enough to put on a trout line. A trout line is like a rope across the New River, and you put bait on it and it catches fish with hooks. [I just got back from a fishing trip three days ago.] We caught two muddy cats and a channel cat. We have also caught turtles.

[What makes this area special?] The mountains, the rivers and the people. Some of them are pretty nice. They help you find anywhere, they pull over for funerals, and they take their hats off when somebody dies. They care for you.

I do kinda [consider myself a hillbilly.] I like the woods a lot. I would rather be in the woods than in the city.

My dad was a military dad. He was always fighting for this country. He was giving his life up for his country. It makes me feel proud of my dad. He did get hurt and [had to take disability]. Fighting for this country means [possibly] giving your own life up for someone else’s family, so we can live free. [Being free] is doing what you please without being under rule. 

[I won’t go into the military because] I feel better in the woods and in the creeks and in the river. [My job] will probably have something to do with the woods, probably a Park Ranger or something.

I have one sister that is younger than me, and one brother older than me. He is sixteen. We get along sometimes, he plays jokes on me. During school time, he wakes me up early like at midnight and he says, ‘get ready to go to school.’ I dump water on him to get back at him.

I probably will always live in West Virginia. I will probably move off to go to college and then move back.

I am aware that people from away from here make fun of us. I feel they don’t know how our ancestors actually lived. History is really important to West Virginians and Virginians and all that. My grandpa is passing down to me a way to live, the way to hunt, the way to build and help yourself to live off the land. My dad is passing down to me survival skills like which tree bark can you eat, how old does a plant have to be before you can eat ‘em and which berries. 

The funniest thing that has ever happened to me was when I was a little kid. My grandpa told me there was moth man and cannibals at his house and probably Slim. That’s a ghost in my grandpa’s house, his name is Slim. Well my mom’s uncles went to bed at night and they saw a man in the bed and another one that said ‘help me.” I still see faces in there now at night. 

[I would tell kids who don’t live here] in West Virginia you basically don’t have rules in the wild. You can play in the creeks, you can dig up worms, you can build anything you want. You can have fun.

I have lived almost everywhere; Texas, Arizona, New Mexico and Virginia but I consider West Virginia home.”